Jim: On our last tour we played two shows in London, and they both sold out. A total of 8,000 people bought tickets to see us play there. It's really cool.

More than ever now, chart positions and sales are not so much a reliable gauge of whether or not you're making connections. Rhianna's playing clubs and how many millions has she sold? People coming to see you play, I think that's a good indicator of whether or not you're making a connection with anybody.